tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-865494184012705718.post4113884710230253438..comments2008-07-17T19:56:33.171-04:00Comments on The 7-10: Palmer on Politics: Lamentations of an Educated Voter: On Whiners, Pr...Anthony Palmerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00043374303541804437noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-865494184012705718.post-48929612243900834032008-07-17T19:56:00.000-04:002008-07-17T19:56:00.000-04:002008-07-17T19:56:00.000-04:00Brett,I think a vote can be a very dangerous weapo...Brett,<BR/><BR/>I think a vote can be a very dangerous weapon when it is used by people who don't take government seriously. Think about David Duke's near election several years ago. If it weren't for Tim Russert, Duke very well may have been elected president.<BR/><BR/>I sometimes flirt with the idea of making a basic civics test mandatory for voting, but then you run into accusations of big government and infringing on personal freedoms. And also, who's to say that knowledgeable people know what's best?<BR/><BR/>I guess there has to be a balance between the serious voters and the casual ones. They're both necessary because they keep everyone grounded. I just wish the balance was a little more skewed in favor of the serious voters sometimes. It's very difficult for me to discuss politics with people who fixate on minutia.<BR/><BR/>-----<BR/><BR/>Torrance,<BR/><BR/>Well, we tell people this stuff all the time in terms of living within our means, but people don't like to listen. So they learn the hard way and want others to bail them out.Anthony Palmerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00043374303541804437noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-865494184012705718.post-68387345133276058642008-07-15T18:33:00.000-04:002008-07-15T18:33:00.000-04:002008-07-15T18:33:00.000-04:00now that i think about if we have to tell them all...now that i think about if we have to tell them all that<BR/>hard to think they can understand whats going onTorrance Stephens - All-Mi-Thttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08843040863123899426noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-865494184012705718.post-16317594533049887582008-07-15T03:40:00.000-04:002008-07-15T03:40:00.000-04:002008-07-15T03:40:00.000-04:00I've actually heard one theory that the ignorant, ...I've actually heard one theory that the ignorant, ill-informed nature of much of the electorate makes our politics possible. Knowledgeable people also tend to be more politically active and opinionated, which can be good and bad; in too good times, they start to get indulgent and less pragmatic, like many voters arguably did for Al Gore in 2000 by voting for Nader. But that wishy-washy middle? They can flow back and forth with the political ideas, giving it flexibility as long as you are consistent and optimistic.<BR/><BR/>You implied that it would be better if people were slightly wiser as to the image, and I agree partially on that point; I think I would settle just for people actually learning from history. But at the same time, you can't really separate the image from "substance" in politics, because the image itself has real-world consequences other than as a propaganda device.Brettnoreply@blogger.com